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snicker 3d Retreat      Posts: 897 |
With the release of DX8 and another set of leaked NVidia drivers, I decided to take a look at some updated benchmarks on my machine. After installing W2K, 3DMark scores have been significantly lower than with Win98 on my machine and I attributed that to early drivers in W2K and DX7. I appear to be at least partially correct because the latest drivers in combination with DX8 have given my box a significantly improved score when doing some comparison benchmarking. My machine is a P3-600 running Windows 2000 and DirectX 8. After running tests with 3DMark2000 set to 1024x768, I received the following scores with the various driver sets by NVidia: (scores are an average of 3 test runs)
While the 7.17 drivers are reported to have various issues, they are rumored to be the first drivers with DX8 support built in. Of course, 3DMark2000 is built around DX7 but it is interesting to note that the latest drivers by NVidia seem to be SIGNIFICANTLY (close to 1000 difference) improve my 3DMark scores. 6.31 (the latest official release) and prior all run in the lower 3000s. Also of note is that systems with older cards such as the TNT2 Ultra and before don't note any significant improvement with the latest drivers. Apu's Hardware has done a nice lowdown of benchmarks on an Athlon 800 and a TNT2 Ultra. The results are here and you will notice that throughout all the various driver versions, their results are pretty much all identical. Also of note is that In Win98 I would get between 5000-5500. While my current scores of 4241 are not that high, they are a lot better than the 3000s. I am imagining that as W2K drivers mature, they will get even better. Also, not all cards notice the slowdown between W2K and Win98 that I am seeing so it isn't a general statement that W2K is slower than Win98. Some cards in various hardware configs perform the same from what I read. I am interested to here any results you guys are having and if you are making similiar findings. Take it to the forums!       
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hendrixx Newbie 
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Hi, i have tried the new 7.17 detonator drivers on my machine with the latest DirectX 8.0 (Dutch) and i can tell you this: IT SUCKS !! My system :
So i keep on using NVidia detonator v6.47 drivers. ......Jimmy
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snicker 3d Retreat Posts: 897 |
That seems to be what most people are seeing in Win98/WinME. W2K seems to be only where the improvements are seen. ------------------
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SUPREME Newbie
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Because of your scores, I will be upgrading my 6.31 to the 6.47 drivers. Thank you for your information. I'm keeping my 7.0a DirectX though.. isn't that the best performance? My Setup: ------------------
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snicker 3d Retreat Posts: 897 |
Keep in mind, that significant increase in my scores was due to Windows 2000 being my operating system. W2K drivers have been slow at first but are just now maturing. You should be safe using 6.47 but don't expect to see as large of an improvement as I did. ------------------
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Archbishop Newbie
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Well, I tried these 7.17 drivers, and they just make my system hang. Keeping in mind, though, that they are still beta, maybe that isn´t such a big deal. System: /Anders ------------------
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SUPREME Newbie
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Any good benchmarks for win9x running the various det drivers? I'll start looking myself, just wondering if you had any  ------------------
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hendrixx Newbie
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Hi, the best benchmarks i can think off are the Quake III timedemo and the 3DMark2000 benchmark. (And perhaps Unreal Tournement timedemo? for Direct3D) ...........Jimmy ------------------
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MasterOfPuppets Newbie
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I have a GeForce 2 MX and Half-Life crashes under OpenGL using 7.17, hope a new version is leaked soon cause DirectX gaming is painful. ------------------
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snicker 3d Retreat Posts: 897 |
I recommend going back down to 6.47. 7.17 seems to be having too many issues right now. ------------------
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RedDragonGecko Newbie
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All I know is with whatever drivers I use I never score above 2649 in 3D mark. I have: P3 600eb Asus P3C2000 128megs of pc133 corsair win98/se Hercules Prophet 2 geforce 2/gts 64meg This is driving me insane, and yes fsaa is off. ------------------
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snicker 3d Retreat Posts: 897 |
never score above 2649? Whoa, something is up! What kind of framerates do you get in Quake 3? Are you making sure you close EVERYTHING before you run the tests and nothing is going on in the background on your pc? ------------------
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dune 3d Retreat Posts: 188 |
It might be something with your motherboard. The P3C2000 is being phased out by Asus and I still don't trust those high numbered Intel chipsets... They always seem to have problems creeping up, not to mention the whole rambus issues. My system is almost identical to your except I'm running 700e and a CUBX w/ 440bx chipset. It's only 100mhz FSB, but I get high 3000 low 4000's on my 32mb Prophet II. ------------------
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snicker 3d Retreat Posts: 897 |
Your running Windows 2000 correct? What drivers are you using? ------------------
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dune 3d Retreat Posts: 188 |
Yeah. Win2k. Let me verify those numbers though. I know I'm higher than 2700 though. ------------------
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RedDragonGecko Newbie
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When I run 3D Mark I turn everything off yes. I was wondering about my P3C2000. I just learned about the mth problem with some mobo's, and that if you are having problems you can exchange it for a new mobo with 128pc800 rdram. Although I have heard that rdram sucks so I don't know what to do. ------------------
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MSQ862 Newbie
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My scores have dropped. My 3DMark score where about 5500. 3 months later i did the 3DMark2000 benchmark, just for fun. And the 3DMark score now is 1500. I'll just have reinstall W98 again. My Setup: ------------------
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sniper Moderator 
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If you have win2k get the 11.01 drivers from http://www.the-ctrl-alt-del.com/Drivers.htm. They are by far the best ones yet! I used the 12.00 ones for like a day or too, and they were really unstable. I had to reboot a lot, and they just were not as nice as the 11.01. Also make sure you install SP1, and since SP2 is out now, you might want to try that. Also a nice fact, win2k is NOT a gaming OS, so your not going to have a big score in 3dMark 2000, or 2001. 3dMark 2001 is really made for systems witha a GF3, a 1ghz+ processor, etc. Basically a kick a$$ system! I really reccomend Win98 for a Gaming OS's. That is proppley one of the more stable OS's, and it is proven in a few reviews and test to be good! MSQ862; I would try adding mroe ram, If you have all that stuff, office 2000, midtown etc, with only 128, it might be slow ass. And why is it 128MB PC133 @100? If you buy a stick of pc133 it will be pc-133 unless you have a pc-100, and 133, then it will run at the slower rate. The pc-100. ------------------
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