Here's what i've tryed: doanload all of the current patches and install them, buy a new graphics card that IS supported, update the graphics card, i've configured the game many times, tried different resolution settings, tried force software, and refreshed windows.

If you have the collector's edition, you shouldn't need any patches, it has all the current software. However you should check to make sure you have the latest SUPPORTED drivers (not betas) from your vid and sound card manufacturer.

My next suggestion would be to read the readme.txt file either on the cd or in the game directory. They often list known compatability issues in there that aren't included in the manual, as well as "bugs".

If none of that works, give us the specs on the machine and EXACTLY what happens when it crashes (any error messages, just gets toasted and goes back to desktop, etc.)

Oh, and keep in mind, none of these games support alt-tabing (doh!) so if you have some other program running that can make itself the focus (like aol's im), that would crash things, but I don't think that's your trouble since it only happens when you go to play.

If you have any questions about how to find what version of DirectX you have, etc., just ask.

Warthog

When i start the game, the screen flickers and then it just freezes, thats with Rogue Spear, with Rainbow 6 it comes up an error saying that there is an internal error and can't be opened.

Is it possible that you are low on hard drive space? (I know it's stupid in this day to ask that with 40Gig drives and all, but I'm still using a 2.1 Gig as primary, so :) If it doesn't have enough room for it's swap file, that could cause it to crash.

My only other suggestion at this point would be to do as instructed above, reinstall the game (after uninstalling it) and make sure NOT to reinstall direct x from the cd (since you now have a newer version).

ghost937

(96MB of ram? how... odd. :)

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What is the exact processor you have?

Did you have sound in the game when it did work?

What is your RSConig.exe set at? It should be "Let Rogue Spear Choose".

Are you sure you correctly installed the latest drivers for you video card? Sometimes the latest drivers don't work in certain games. I had that trouble in August with the latest Det 3 drivers for my Geforce2 GTS. I had to "downgrade" to the last latest driver.

Warthog

Under the RSconfig.exe, make sure both are set to Let Rogue Spear Choose.

In the game, go to options, and do the following:

Under Game, turn off record mission.

Under Graphics, set your res to 640x480 and the detail level to med (though high works on mine).

Under Advanced, turn on LOD and MIP skip, and turn off everything else. Exit RS and then restart it.

Try the simplest training exercise (the shooting alley thing). If it works, try a mission. If THAT works, go back to advanced and turn LOD and MIP skip off and try another mission.

Keep turning options under Advanced back on one at a time until it ceases to work.

If you can't get it to run even with all the graphics options turned off, I dunno what to tell you. "It works just fine on my machine."

And there goes my other idea

ghost's graphic setting steps are good. Play around with that some.

Warthog

Could you try that cd on a friends machine?

Warthog

As for the colonel's specific problem, if he was able to run one complete mission, I can't help believe that it's not the game or cd or even his computer. More than likely it's a) graphics and options settings in combo with the machine (I keep mentioning this, but it is very significant, TURN OFF RECORD MISSION) or b) the latest and greatest drivers for the card which are NOT supported (ie, beta versions and probably therefore unstable in some situations). If the problem were a specific piece of hardware or software setting, the crashes wouldn't be random (well that's not entirely true, but it's more remote).

Just my humble opinion...

One thing you might want to do is run both scandisk and defrag on your hard drive. It's possible that you have bad sectors on it and every time you install the game, some part of it gets written there (possible, but unlikely).

Then again, who's to say you don't have a machine that is in the exact correct configuration to bring out a new bug in the software. It's gotta be someone

lol ghost...poor colonel

Just confirming: you have tried the suggested graphics settings?

What about borrowing a friends Rogue Spear cd and set it the same way you did yours? You could then decide whether it is your machine or the game.

Warthog

i can tell that many of the people who have problems running this game are using the collectors' ed. i know for a fact that this version is different than the original. i wonder if this version may be less stable? does anyone out there the the collectors' ed working? if so, what is your setup, so that i can try to copy it?

the file rommel.log can be used to diagnose problems, just as the sherman.log in the original r6.
here's my rommel.log:

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Reactivating!
Selecting sound device Aureal - Vortex DirectSound Driver
   driver is AU30WAVE.VXD
EAX Support not available
Voice Manager activated
SIMSCENE: No surface property named nul
SIMSCENE: No surface property named nul
SIMSCENE: No surface property named nul
SIMSCENE: No surface property named nul
SIMSCENE: No surface property named nul
SIMSCENE: No surface property named nul
SIMSCENE: No surface property named nul
SIMSCENE: No surface property named nul
SIMSCENE: No surface property named nul
SIMSCENE: No surface property named nul
SOUND3D: EAX Buffer Properties not supported
Reactivating!

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as you can see, i seem to have problems with EAX sounds, but i have no idea what simscene means... just that it is bad.

i have reinstalled (with dir & reg cleanup) several times, and the problem always recurs in 30 minutes or less.

many of the crashes appear just after i choose "resume campaign" - long before the 3d part of the game. this makes me think that the problem is not related to the 3d parts of the game. how can 3d sound and graphics problems cause a crash when they are not yet active? i am thinking more along the lines of general directdraw and directsound compatibility problems with my hardware or software.

i am using directx7 and have not yet tried directx8. i have heard that often causes more problems than it solves. has anyone been abole to fix the game by upgrading 7 to 8?

does anyone have any other recommendations?

most of all, thank you for reading this rather lengthy post.